{"id":2243,"date":"2024-08-12T17:21:44","date_gmt":"2024-08-12T17:21:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/?p=2243"},"modified":"2024-08-12T17:21:44","modified_gmt":"2024-08-12T17:21:44","slug":"dems-hitting-vance-with-debunked-vulgar-rumor-undermine-their-credibility-strategist-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/dems-hitting-vance-with-debunked-vulgar-rumor-undermine-their-credibility-strategist-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Dems hitting Vance with debunked vulgar rumor &#8216;undermine&#8217; their credibility, strategist says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> [ad_1]<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"speakable\">Democrats have continued to push a vulgar falsehood about former President Trump\u2019s operating mate Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, regardless of the declare being debunked weeks in the past.<\/p>\n<p class=\"speakable\">&#8220;It undermines their moralizing about Trump\u2019s falsehoods and gives Trump an opportunity to say it\u2019s \u2018the pot calling the kettle black,\u2019&#8221; Democratic strategist Julian Epstein informed Fox News Digital.<\/p>\n<p>Epstein\u2019s remark comes as Democrats present no indicators of ditching the Vance &#8220;couch meme,&#8221; a vulgar rumor that originated on social media final month that Trump\u2019s operating mate described a intercourse act he carried out on a sofa in his 2016 memoir, &#8220;Hillbilly Elegy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Despite the declare being rapidly debunked, its viral unfold was picked up by Democrats and spawned jokes and memes throughout social media.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WALZ ACCUSATIONS OF &#8216;STOLEN VALOR&#8217; PROMPT BATTLE BETWEEN HOUSE VETERANS<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"image-ct inline\">\n<div class=\"m\"><picture><source media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/343\/192\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/686\/384\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"192\" width=\"343\"><source media=\"(min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 1023px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/672\/378\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/1344\/756\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"378\" width=\"672\"><source media=\"(min-width: 1024px) and (max-width: 1279px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/931\/523\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/1862\/1046\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"523\" width=\"931\"><source media=\"(min-width: 1280px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/720\/405\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/1440\/810\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"405\" width=\"720\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/1200\/675\/GettyImages-2165777369.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1\" alt=\"Harris and Walz campaigning in Las Vegas\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\"\/><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div>\n<div class=\"info\">\n<div class=\"caption\">\n<p><span>Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz gesture throughout a marketing campaign rally on the Thomas and Mack Center, University of Nevada in Las Vegas on Aug. 10, 2024.<\/span> <span>(RONDA CHURCHILL\/AFP by way of Getty Images)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The falsehood even made its method to the highest of the Democratic ticket, with Vice President Kamala Harris\u2019 operating mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, cracking a joke in regards to the rumor throughout a speech in Philadelphia the identical day Harris introduced he was becoming a member of the ticket.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I got to tell you, I can\u2019t wait to debate [Vance]. That is if \u2014 if he\u2019s willing to get off the couch and show up,&#8221; Walz mentioned through the remarks as Harris smirked behind him, in keeping with a recounting of the occasion on NBC News. &#8220;You see what I did there?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The second went viral on the Harris marketing campaign\u2019s TikTok account, named Kamala HQ, garnering 5.3 million views, NBC reported, noting that Democrats have continued to make use of the joke regardless of the discharge of fact-checks debunking the rumor by a number of media retailers.<\/p>\n<p>In one such instance, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee despatched a information launch on July 26 concentrating on Trump\u2019s determination to select Vance, joking that Republicans are &#8220;couching their public praise of Trump\u2019s vice presidential nominee with private criticism.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong><u>VP KAMALA HARRIS PICKING GOV. TIM WALZ AS RUNNING MATE MET WITH MEDIA SCORN: &#8216;SUCH A WEIRD CHOICE&#8217;<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On July 27, the Kamala HQ X account shared a screenshot of Vance\u2019s moments on &#8220;cat ladies&#8221; with the caption that the Ohio senator &#8220;does not couch his hatred for women.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>A day later, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, lengthy believed to be a possible candidate to hitch Harris on the ticket, joked on ABC News that whereas Trump &#8220;talks about all kinds of crazy stuff,&#8221; Vance is &#8220;getting known for his obsession with couches.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"image-ct inline\">\n<div class=\"m\"><picture><source media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/343\/192\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/686\/384\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"192\" width=\"343\"><source media=\"(min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 1023px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/672\/378\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1344\/756\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"378\" width=\"672\"><source media=\"(min-width: 1024px) and (max-width: 1279px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/931\/523\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1862\/1046\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"523\" width=\"931\"><source media=\"(min-width: 1280px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/720\/405\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1440\/810\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"405\" width=\"720\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1200\/675\/illinois-governor-jb-pritzker-2023-clinton-global-initiative.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1\" alt=\"Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker closeup shot\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\"\/><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div>\n<div class=\"info\">\n<div class=\"caption\">\n<p><span>Illinois Gov. J. B. Pritzker speaks through the Clinton Global Initiative assembly on the Hilton Midtown on Sept. 19, 2023 in New York City.<\/span> <span>(John Nacion\/WireImage)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Rep. Jared Moskowitz, D-Fla., has additionally leaned into the joke, responding to Vance\u2019s submit asking why Harris had not been taking questions from the media.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I\u2019ve been on Air Force 2 JD, there is a great couch on it,&#8221; Moskowitz mentioned in an August 7 submit on X.<\/p>\n<p>The continued veiled jabs at Vance over a debunked rumor seemingly fly within the face of one of many essential Democratic criticisms of Trump, who the get together has lengthy claimed peddled misinformation and false claims for political profit.<\/p>\n<p><strong><u>JD VANCE ACCUSES TIM WALZ OF \u2018LYING\u2019 ABOUT MILITARY SERVICE: \u2018STOLEN VALOR GARBAGE\u2019<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That criticism of Trump took middle stage through the 2016 Democratic National Convention, when then-first girl Michelle Obama famously declare &#8220;when they go low, we go high,&#8221; in reference to the assaults on her and her household.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull-quote\">\n<p class=\"quote-text\">&#8220;More than anything else, Democrats want to memory-hole the Biden\/Harris record of the last four years. They want to memory-hole Harris\u2019 fringe left views from just five years ago.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> <!----><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Obama doubled down on the theme through the 2020 conference in assist of President Biden, declaring that &#8220;going high is the only thing that works.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Moskowitz has nonetheless defended his get together\u2019s obvious double normal, arguing on social media that persevering with the unfold of the rumor is simply jokes and doesn&#8217;t examine to the lies unfold by Trump.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;For 2 years we had to hear that Joe Biden was an international super criminal mastermind from Despicable Me 3. You will listen to couch story,&#8221; he mentioned final month.<\/p>\n<div class=\"image-ct inline\">\n<div class=\"m\"><picture><source media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/343\/192\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/686\/384\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"192\" width=\"343\"><source media=\"(min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 1023px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/672\/378\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/1344\/756\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"378\" width=\"672\"><source media=\"(min-width: 1024px) and (max-width: 1279px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/931\/523\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/1862\/1046\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"523\" width=\"931\"><source media=\"(min-width: 1280px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/720\/405\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1, https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/1440\/810\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1 2x\" height=\"405\" width=\"720\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/a57.foxnews.com\/static.foxnews.com\/foxnews.com\/content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/1200\/675\/MICHELLE-OBAMA-TENNIS-NYC.jpg?ve=1&amp;tl=1\" alt=\"Michelle Obama speaking at podium\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\"\/><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div>\n<div class=\"info\">\n<div class=\"caption\">\n<p><span>Former first girl Michelle Obama attends Opening Night celebrating 50 years of equal pay throughout Day One of the 2023 US Open at Arthur Ashe Stadium on the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center on Aug. 28, 2023.<\/span> <span>(Photo by Jean Catuffe\/GC Images)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong><u>&#8211;<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Moskowitz\u2019s workplace didn&#8217;t instantly reply to a Fox News Digital request for remark.<\/p>\n<p>However, Epstein believes Democrats are making a &#8220;mistake&#8221; by persevering with to lean into the falsehood, although she argued getting right into a &#8220;tit for tat campaign of insult comedy&#8221; would even be a &#8220;trap for the Republicans.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;More than anything else, Democrats want to memory-hole the Biden\/Harris record of the last four years,&#8221; Epstein mentioned. &#8220;They want to memory-hole Harris\u2019 fringe left views from just five years ago.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The Harris marketing campaign didn&#8217;t instantly reply to a Fox News Digital request for remark.<\/p>\n<p><i><strong><u>Get the most recent updates from the 2024 marketing campaign path, unique interviews and extra at our Fox News Digital election hub.<\/u><\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p> <!----> <\/p>\n<div class=\"article-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-bio\">\n<p>Michael Lee is a author for Fox News. Prior to becoming a member of <i>Fox News<\/i>, Michael labored for the <i>Washington Examiner<\/i>, <i>Bongino.com<\/i>, and <i>Unbiased America<\/i>. He has lined politics for greater than eight years.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>[ad_2]<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/dems-hitting-vance-debunked-vulgar-claim-undermine-anti-trump-credibility-strategist-says\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ad_1] Democrats have continued to push a vulgar falsehood about former President Trump\u2019s operating mate Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, regardless of the declare being debunked weeks in the past. &#8220;It undermines their moralizing about Trump\u2019s falsehoods and gives Trump an opportunity to say it\u2019s \u2018the pot calling the kettle black,\u2019&#8221; Democratic strategist Julian Epstein informed [&hellip;] <a class=\"g1-link g1-link-more\" href=\"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/dems-hitting-vance-with-debunked-vulgar-rumor-undermine-their-credibility-strategist-says\/\">More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2244,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[126],"tags":[],"adace-sponsor":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-2243","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-politics"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2243","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2243"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2243\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2251,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2243\/revisions\/2251"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2244"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2243"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2243"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2243"},{"taxonomy":"adace-sponsor","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clickmen.us\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/adace-sponsor?post=2243"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}